Toolbar: Command to Set Values Directly

Dementiurge shared this feedback 4 years ago
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Proposal:


"Set X" toolbar action that replaces "Increase X" and "Decrease X". When placing the Set X To action on the toolbar, it will prompt you with a number/text field, as programmable blocks do for their Run action. If this number begins with "++", e.g. "++500.15", then it will increment the slider value by that amount. If this number begins with "--", e.g. "--0.15", then it will decrement the slider value by that amount. Otherwise, a plain number, e.g. "-100.01" will set the slider value to that exact amount. Multiplying an existing value might also be desirable.

How this addresses some existing issues:

Pressing an Increase of Decrease command multiple times to reach a desired value: Unnecessary when you can set to the desired value directly.

Fine tuning values is not possible from the toolbar: It is possible when you have control over the size of increment used by your toolbar actions.

Automation via timer blocks: Vastly easier when you set desired values directly, and/or use increments you've defined.

Reset Velocity action on rotors sets to zero, recovering velocity not possible: Again, set your desired velocity without hassle.

Long lists of actions because every variable offers Increase and Decrease and sometimes Reset actions: Each variable only needs a single multi-purpose Set action, making lists considerably shorter. (But long lists are still possible.)

Replies (7)

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I came here to post this exact request. Being able to do this without relying on a programmable block would be extremely helpful, given the issues surrounding it.

This implementation would satisfy a couple of related requests I saw:

https://support.keenswh.com/spaceengineers/pc/topic/command-option-g-bar-timer-block-reset-anyall-increasedecrease-commands

https://support.keenswh.com/spaceengineers/pc/topic/command-option-g-bartimer-block-reset-gyro-override

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I came here for this and for Visual programming. I think that this API would fit nicely w/ a visual programming tool also.

I found several tickets that could all be combined. I chose to comment on this one because it's the oldest I found.

https://support.keenswh.com/spaceengineers/pc/topic/add-set-to-hotbar-action-for-block-parameters

https://support.keenswh.com/spaceengineers/pc/topic/toolbars-set-instead-of-increase-decrease_1

https://support.keenswh.com/spaceengineers/pc/topic/accurate-actions

https://support.keenswh.com/spaceengineers/pc/topic/allowing-timer-blocks-to-set-accurate-values-on-functional-blocks

Set Increment

In addition to "set to" for existing sliders or numeric inputs I think it would be helpful to have "set increment" which would make Increase/Decrease actions more useful.

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This is still relevant and would solve significant issues in automating processes.

A great example is pistons in a printer that have to extend slowly at maybe (0.1 m/s) but can retract at full speed (-10 m/s). The increase/decrease action is insufficient because it changes the value by 1.

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+1 for this.

I workaround the issue mentioned by fn by setting the piston to eg 0.1, then let a timer trigger 'decrease' twice. when the next print job starts, it increses it 2 times so it is back at 0.1m/s. making this consistent requires turning off and on timers.

I was hoping they did something with the Automatons Update. Maybe a block similar to the timer which is dedicated to said action - set the piston to 0.1 no matter how often 'decrease speed' is pressed before.

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Being able to set specific values from timers is what the game is missing, adding/subtracting 0.02 to piston max distance instead of increase/decrease an annoying giant amount.

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This is sorely needed, especially for making complex contraptions on servers where scripting is not enabled

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+1, Maybe this will get to 50 before SE2 comes out.

Non-PB interactivity is even more relevant than ever with event controllers and AI around nowadays.

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