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Visual static on planetary rings giving a lot of eyestrain

Jetter shared this bug ago

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When looking at planetary rings, particularly when close, there's an annoying static effect in the rings. I usually play with low graphics settings and no AA/upscaling, but in testing graphics settings appear to have little effect. The additional eyestrain from the effect makes it mildly headache-inducing to be in or be looking at planetary rings, and the only mitigation seems to be enabling FSR, but it doesn't make it go away completely and FSR itself gives increased eyestrain as well.

I see a similar effect but to a much reduced degree when looking at a planetary halo, and managed to capture both in the same screenshot.

Please, PLEASE, give an option to turn off whatever is causing this effect. It is physically painful to look at after a few minutes and turns planetary rings into a no-go zone.

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Daniel

graphical artifacts

HI i have recently got the game but am having issues with graphical artifacts

as you can see in the image. there is like a pixelization issue (screenshot was taken on high settings). whilst playing i have noticed that in the menus look ok but when in game not in the main menu there is a constant pixilation issue on any graphical settings almost like old tv static. I am playing on a AMD graphics card fully updated and works perfect on any other game. A similar graphical issue happened when i got ICARUS when that first released in early access a few years ago. they updated it and it stopped the issue. again it was on a AMD system. please can this be looked into as I love playing on se1 almost 2000 hrs in and would like to put the hours in playing this game but cant with the way it looks with this issue.

ILoveSpaceEngineers

RTX-5090 graphics issues

Hi, I have a 5090, and when I play SE2...

The textures often fail to resolve properly... they sparkle or twinkle. The surface looks like it is constantly moving... at the paint level.

Also, the game regularly has these very small "hiccups" very noticeable when flying a ship over a planet, or near asteroids. The game appears to repetitively "lurch" forwards.

There are times when distance to a texture determines whether it reflects light or not, and that looks very bad when it happens.

I can make a video of this if required.

I'd rather not, as it feels like you guys just need to run the game on a 5090, and experience it for yourself. You can't fix something you can't reproduce. I'm just assuming you guys haven't tested with a 5090, because... like who buys that to play SE? One guy anyways.

Let me know if a video on my part is required, or if you already know about these issues and are working on it.

I have the same bug

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Joey Chellino ●

I would like to add that I have the same bug but I am also seeing a sort off trailing after image of whatever I am looking at when I move my camera around. 2bc7c8c6ee606f336108fb7b18fe95ba

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Kennet0508 ●

Thats very interresting, would you mind adding what settings and hardware specs you have? screenies works fine if you dont want to write it down

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Daniel ●

I get the same but not just when in space but constantly. took a snip of the screen this is with settings set to high fb5fd461e056f74c350ec1417a32d717 db5af02e087a862b62bbcde23f66e2dd

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Jetter ●

Huh. I've always noticed something being slightly off in the lighting but couldn't put my finger on it. Now that I'm looking though I can see it too. I wonder if this is a bigger general lighting problem than just rings. =/

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SE2 Community Support ●

Hello ILoveSpaceEngineers,

Could you please provide a video recording of your issue and a screenshot of your Graphical settings? Are you using up-to-date NVidia drivers?

Kind Regards,

Bartosz

Keen Software House

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ILoveSpaceEngineers ●

Hello Bartoz,

I have uploaded a video to my YT channel: https://youtu.be/sU6SxfSLSfA

You must watch it in 4k to see the issues. They may only appear in 4k. IDK. I didn't try lower settings.

I am using the latest NVIDIA drivers, I use the Studio drivers, because I do SE recordings for YT.

At the beginning of the video, I show my graphics settings. I am playing the game in 4k.

I used the built in NVIDIA encoder to record this. I did not use another piece of software like OBS.

If you need more assistance or more information, please let me know.

Thank you

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SE2 Community Support ●

Hello ILoveSpaceEngineers,

Thank you for providing a video of the issue. I see that you are using the Performance setting, please change this setting to Quality and let me know if the issue will still persist afterwards.

Kind Regards,

Bartosz

Keen Software House

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ILoveSpaceEngineers ●

Hello Bartoz,

I have made the requested changes to the graphics setting and tried again. Issue persists. It's mildly different, but still present. I show my graphics settings, and demonstrate the issues a second time in this video here: https://youtu.be/s04sWjX6PII

If you need more information, please let me know.

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SE2 Community Support ●

Hello ILoveSpaceEngineers,

I see, this seems to be caused by Scaling Mode being set to Balanced. Setting it to either Quality or NativeAA should fix your problems.

Please note that this is not an issue per se but rather the way scaling functions to provide better performance for the cost of visuals quality.

Kind Regards,

Bartosz

Keen Software House

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Miguel Hernandez ●

I also use a 5090 and found some similar issues. What most affected me was a grainy look when light hit metal surfaces at an angle and on the ring of planets. There is also a ghost streak of objects such as asteroids when moving the camera while in space.

Changing to NativeAA improves it significantly but does not remove it completely.

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Miguel Hernandez ●

I recorded evidence and uploaded it here: https://youtu.be/haetuKSr4Mk

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ILoveSpaceEngineers ●

Hello Bartoz,

I gave the suggested settings change a try, and it did affect how the game looks. Some issues are better some are not, and some are worse.

The jerkyness of the view port when moving is still present.

The moving surfaces are still present.

The improperly rendered reflections.

Do you guys have a 5090 to test with?

I made another recording of the issues with the current settings:

https://youtu.be/hJsUACKUu4A

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ILoveSpaceEngineers ●

I started a thread about a similar issue. They are responding to me there. I have a 5090 and assumed it was related to that, because I haven't seen other issues listed.

I titled that one with "5090" in it. If you want to go over there. I made a few videos for them. Your pic looks similar to what I am seeing... but maybe worse.

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ILoveSpaceEngineers ●

This issue is affecting many users. I have another issue titled "5090" where I provide some videos. I have not seen the rings yet, so I don't know if they will have the pixelation or not. But it's definitely an ongoing issue.

They have responded to my issue, so you might give it some love to help nudge them to resolve.

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Jetter ●

Ooh. I added a post on yours and cross-referenced back to here, some of the other posts here seem to be exactly what you described in your issue. Might be a common underlying cause.

I'd be interested to see if you have the ring thing as well. If you're interested, I wonder if you could try recreating my screenshot and see what happens on your end with your different settings and hardware. The issue seems to be at its worst when the sun is behind a planet and you're in the ring plane looking towards the bright areas.

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Jetter ●

I'm having similar issues on a 3070ti, as well as a few other possibly related problems that I made a separate report on. I typically use lower graphics settings and native AA. It's as if the lighting has built-in static or jitter, and it's mildly headache inducing for me.

I'll cross-reference my issue here just in case. https://support.keenswh.com/spaceengineers2/pc/topic/53046-visual-static-on-planetary-rings-giving-a-lot-of-eyestrain

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ILoveSpaceEngineers ●

Thanks man! Much appreciated.

I hope they can figure it out!

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Miguel Hernandez ●

I hope so too, but not holding my breath. I tried to play SE1 and it has had a crashing, not just bad graphics, but game breaking bug on 5090 that has been reported for 10 months without any fixes. So right now I can't play SE1 due to continuous crashes and SE2 due to the projection bug :(.

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ILoveSpaceEngineers ●

@miguel I wonder if you need to revalidate your SE1 files? I play SE1 with a 5090 several times a week. Had it loaded up this morning.

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SE2 Community Support ●

Hello Engineers,

After talking with our Devs, the issues you are experiencing with the visual noise etc. seem to be caused due to limitations of current technology. I have reported these issues and attached this thread to our internal ticket (SE2-32551). I don't have any ETA on when this going to be solved. I will update this thread with more info once I'll know more.

Thank you for your patience.

Kind Regards,

Bartosz

Keen Software House

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Jetter ●

Thanks, good to know it's being looked at internally

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