Hangar pressurization breaks when docking small ships
Found a bug that causes all air vents to error out and the entire ship can't be pressurized. Happens when I dock ships to the hangar connectors, close the hangar doors, then pressurize the room. Once the hangar is pressurized, opening the doors to the main deck causes the entire ship to lose pressure and the air vents won't pressurize if I turn them off and on again. The only way to fix it is to reload the world.
I also noticed strange behaviour when I dock ships and the hangar doors are open. Sometimes the air vent lights will turn blue, even though the hangar is open and the ship is in space. Pressurizing the hangar works fine then, but depressurizing and pressurizing the hangar again causes the bug above to pop up again.
I think it may have something to do with the connectors and conveyors. I've tested on other large ships and it seems to only break the grid and any vents connected to it. The bug is most often triggered when a ship connects to one of the connectors in the main hangar. However the bug isn't reliably triggered by this action, so it might be something else. It can't be the airtightness of the rooms themselves though, since exiting out of the world fixes it.
I have the same bug
I'm not understanding it is taking so long to fix this bug unless systematic show-stopper bugs just aren't a priority for KSH. This is worse than a crash because it can render an unattended multiplayer (DS) game unplayable until the admin returns (FYI for those using Torch, !fixship is a stopgap bandaid). At least we have auto-restart for crashes.
You can easily see what the problem is in the save... -1 air block calculation turns all airblocks in the room -1 (I'm assuming this is the "space" airblock but unhandled in rooms).
How is this hard?
if ( $airBlock < 0 ) { $airBlock = 0 }(yeah it's perl, case in point on difficulty)As for any TorchServer Devs: You can find this by running Cheat Engine on the SpaceEngineers.exe process. The air blocks are always 0 or positive floats until this issue happens and then they turn -1. If you could hook into the oxygen system through an API somehow and block (or overwrite with the simple perl script above) this in a mod on both the client and server side, this should fix the issue.
I'm still befuddled to how a single line of code takes in excesses of two years to write.
I'm not understanding it is taking so long to fix this bug unless systematic show-stopper bugs just aren't a priority for KSH. This is worse than a crash because it can render an unattended multiplayer (DS) game unplayable until the admin returns (FYI for those using Torch, !fixship is a stopgap bandaid). At least we have auto-restart for crashes.
You can easily see what the problem is in the save... -1 air block calculation turns all airblocks in the room -1 (I'm assuming this is the "space" airblock but unhandled in rooms).
How is this hard?
if ( $airBlock < 0 ) { $airBlock = 0 }(yeah it's perl, case in point on difficulty)As for any TorchServer Devs: You can find this by running Cheat Engine on the SpaceEngineers.exe process. The air blocks are always 0 or positive floats until this issue happens and then they turn -1. If you could hook into the oxygen system through an API somehow and block (or overwrite with the simple perl script above) this in a mod on both the client and server side, this should fix the issue.
I'm still befuddled to how a single line of code takes in excesses of two years to write.
Hello, Ras Absoellah!
I'm sorry you're experiencing this issue. I appreciate the video you have attached which is always a great help. Could I please also ask for your save file? Is this in offline or online? If it is online, we have had a number of reports here of this sort of thing here Sadly, we have been unable to reproduce the issue so if your file is reliable, this would be a big help. If this is offline, please ignore this part but we will of course look at it either way :)
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Kind Regards
Laura, QA Department
Hello, Ras Absoellah!
I'm sorry you're experiencing this issue. I appreciate the video you have attached which is always a great help. Could I please also ask for your save file? Is this in offline or online? If it is online, we have had a number of reports here of this sort of thing here Sadly, we have been unable to reproduce the issue so if your file is reliable, this would be a big help. If this is offline, please ignore this part but we will of course look at it either way :)
Please zip the file and attach it here. If you are having difficulty attaching files you can optionally use Google Drive. When sharing a google drive link please make sure it is set to be downloadable by anyone with the link.
Kind Regards
Laura, QA Department
So will this issue be fixed soon or no? From what I can tell this pressurization bug has been going on for 2 long years, but keen has yet to fix the issue. I’ve had this happen to me on a daily basis now, each time I open my hangar disconnect my miner, go mine some ore, come back, reconnect the miner and close the hangar doors then boom, no pressurization, and it’s not only in the hangar either, it will completely wipe pressurization from my whole ship. Every now and then the hangar will pressurize correctly but as soon as I open my “dumb” airlock to go into my ship then boom, the whole ship depressurizes.
So will this issue be fixed soon or no? From what I can tell this pressurization bug has been going on for 2 long years, but keen has yet to fix the issue. I’ve had this happen to me on a daily basis now, each time I open my hangar disconnect my miner, go mine some ore, come back, reconnect the miner and close the hangar doors then boom, no pressurization, and it’s not only in the hangar either, it will completely wipe pressurization from my whole ship. Every now and then the hangar will pressurize correctly but as soon as I open my “dumb” airlock to go into my ship then boom, the whole ship depressurizes.
I would be more then happy to load my saved files up here so you can replicate the issue, I am playing on Xbox one x and it’s happening to me on my gtx server, please let me know how to upload my saved file so I can help this Bug get fixed!
I would be more then happy to load my saved files up here so you can replicate the issue, I am playing on Xbox one x and it’s happening to me on my gtx server, please let me know how to upload my saved file so I can help this Bug get fixed!
Nice job closing the "duplicate" thread that was providing multiple ways of reproducing the bug.
Apparently this will definitely never be fixed.
Nice job closing the "duplicate" thread that was providing multiple ways of reproducing the bug.
Apparently this will definitely never be fixed.
Since the older thread was marked as a duplicate for some reason, I'll repost my recording of the bug here:
https://youtu.be/9-vqzYjes9U
And my original comments working through the issue here:
https://support.keenswh.com/spaceengineers/pc/topic/pressurization-not-working-properly#comment-57637
and
https://support.keenswh.com/spaceengineers/pc/topic/pressurization-not-working-properly#comment-61673
It's been an issue for years, and on my main save, my asteroid base has almost completely stopped being pressurize-able, so I can't live in space anymore. I hope with the supposed engine updates coming we'll see things like this finally get fixed.
Since the older thread was marked as a duplicate for some reason, I'll repost my recording of the bug here:
https://youtu.be/9-vqzYjes9U
And my original comments working through the issue here:
https://support.keenswh.com/spaceengineers/pc/topic/pressurization-not-working-properly#comment-57637
and
https://support.keenswh.com/spaceengineers/pc/topic/pressurization-not-working-properly#comment-61673
It's been an issue for years, and on my main save, my asteroid base has almost completely stopped being pressurize-able, so I can't live in space anymore. I hope with the supposed engine updates coming we'll see things like this finally get fixed.
Odd addition to this bug in my case where I have several individually pressurized rooms on my station that are linked by depressurized walkways acting as airlocks:
It seems the airtightness in the larger rooms of the station is completely gone, whereas the airtightness in smaller rooms is simply frozen? After connecting my drill ship via merge blocks, my smaller refinery room remains airtight even if I open the doors out into space, any rooms that were already depressurized remain that way, and my large main room loses all pressure and will not pressurize until a server restart. Also tried checking it out with BuildInfo mod and there are no detected leaks, so it's pretty clear O2 is the thing that broke. Fingers crossed those engine changes give us a fix for this!
Odd addition to this bug in my case where I have several individually pressurized rooms on my station that are linked by depressurized walkways acting as airlocks:
It seems the airtightness in the larger rooms of the station is completely gone, whereas the airtightness in smaller rooms is simply frozen? After connecting my drill ship via merge blocks, my smaller refinery room remains airtight even if I open the doors out into space, any rooms that were already depressurized remain that way, and my large main room loses all pressure and will not pressurize until a server restart. Also tried checking it out with BuildInfo mod and there are no detected leaks, so it's pretty clear O2 is the thing that broke. Fingers crossed those engine changes give us a fix for this!
I'm not understanding it is taking so long to fix this bug unless systematic show-stopper bugs just aren't a priority for KSH. This is worse than a crash because it can render an unattended multiplayer (DS) game unplayable until the admin returns (FYI for those using Torch, !fixship is a stopgap bandaid). At least we have auto-restart for crashes.
You can easily see what the problem is in the save... -1 air block calculation turns all airblocks in the room -1 (I'm assuming this is the "space" airblock but unhandled in rooms).
How is this hard?
if ( $airBlock < 0 ) { $airBlock = 0 }(yeah it's perl, case in point on difficulty)As for any TorchServer Devs: You can find this by running Cheat Engine on the SpaceEngineers.exe process. The air blocks are always 0 or positive floats until this issue happens and then they turn -1. If you could hook into the oxygen system through an API somehow and block (or overwrite with the simple perl script above) this in a mod on both the client and server side, this should fix the issue.
I'm still befuddled to how a single line of code takes in excesses of two years to write.
I'm not understanding it is taking so long to fix this bug unless systematic show-stopper bugs just aren't a priority for KSH. This is worse than a crash because it can render an unattended multiplayer (DS) game unplayable until the admin returns (FYI for those using Torch, !fixship is a stopgap bandaid). At least we have auto-restart for crashes.
You can easily see what the problem is in the save... -1 air block calculation turns all airblocks in the room -1 (I'm assuming this is the "space" airblock but unhandled in rooms).
How is this hard?
if ( $airBlock < 0 ) { $airBlock = 0 }(yeah it's perl, case in point on difficulty)As for any TorchServer Devs: You can find this by running Cheat Engine on the SpaceEngineers.exe process. The air blocks are always 0 or positive floats until this issue happens and then they turn -1. If you could hook into the oxygen system through an API somehow and block (or overwrite with the simple perl script above) this in a mod on both the client and server side, this should fix the issue.
I'm still befuddled to how a single line of code takes in excesses of two years to write.
I don't know why they haven't been able to fix the issue. They've been handed saves and could even have more saves if they would be willing to look at modded games. I get modded stuff would cause more possible issues but it would definitely help them find common denominators.
What you suggest would be a dream even for modders to just quickly find such an issue. I don't know if this solves the overall issue since it doesn't find the cause but its at least a stop-gap until they figure out why their air tight system isn't working.
I don't know why they haven't been able to fix the issue. They've been handed saves and could even have more saves if they would be willing to look at modded games. I get modded stuff would cause more possible issues but it would definitely help them find common denominators.
What you suggest would be a dream even for modders to just quickly find such an issue. I don't know if this solves the overall issue since it doesn't find the cause but its at least a stop-gap until they figure out why their air tight system isn't working.
I did some debugging
Setup:
To be short:
Testing:
Bug NOT appears if:
Bug appears if:
This bug applies if you attach subgrids via connectors, rotors, pistons and merge blocks.
Landing Gear is not affected
Workaround:
I did some debugging
Setup:
To be short:
Testing:
Bug NOT appears if:
Bug appears if:
This bug applies if you attach subgrids via connectors, rotors, pistons and merge blocks.
Landing Gear is not affected
Workaround:
Have similar problems on a nitrado server. It works sometimes, sometimes it doesn’t.
To check, I have built a simple, square, 100% airtight room with an air vent and directly attached to a fully loaded tank. Same issue. I’ll try the solution above with connected ships and stuff, maybe that works. If I restart the server, it works sometimes, but just 1-2 times…
Why don’t we get a fix or at least some HONEST answer about this very important topic?
Dear devs, you are welcome to join my server and have a look!
Have similar problems on a nitrado server. It works sometimes, sometimes it doesn’t.
To check, I have built a simple, square, 100% airtight room with an air vent and directly attached to a fully loaded tank. Same issue. I’ll try the solution above with connected ships and stuff, maybe that works. If I restart the server, it works sometimes, but just 1-2 times…
Why don’t we get a fix or at least some HONEST answer about this very important topic?
Dear devs, you are welcome to join my server and have a look!
I have been looking for leaks for the past hour to unfortunately come to the conclusion that this bug is still not solved. Working with large pressurized rooms on larger grids seems impossible now, since there are numerous smaller ships docking and undocking at any given moment. Can we please get a fix?
I have been looking for leaks for the past hour to unfortunately come to the conclusion that this bug is still not solved. Working with large pressurized rooms on larger grids seems impossible now, since there are numerous smaller ships docking and undocking at any given moment. Can we please get a fix?
Hi, same here. I had this issue in MP first and tested on single player creative and still the same issue. When a small ship connecting to my ship hangar (i tested with and without air vent in the hangar itself with the same result) it cause the entire grid getting not pressurized anymore. Once getting this issue the only way to get the air flowing again is to restart the server or leave and come back in single player mode.
What's the ETA on solving this issue, i saw a message from a Laura from Keen in another post saying that she were able to reproduce this exact issue a long time ago so I don't understand why this have not been patched yet.
Hi, same here. I had this issue in MP first and tested on single player creative and still the same issue. When a small ship connecting to my ship hangar (i tested with and without air vent in the hangar itself with the same result) it cause the entire grid getting not pressurized anymore. Once getting this issue the only way to get the air flowing again is to restart the server or leave and come back in single player mode.
What's the ETA on solving this issue, i saw a message from a Laura from Keen in another post saying that she were able to reproduce this exact issue a long time ago so I don't understand why this have not been patched yet.
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