Why can't I do an exact copy of the Bullfrog miner which doesn't shake whilst minig?

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I made a literally exact copy of the Bullfrog miner (exact down to the two t-conveyors with an unconnected end). Why mine violently shakes whilst mining where the original doesn't?

Plus why the orginal has a battery which always keeps 100% charge, no matter how long I'm using it without connecting it to another grid?

Yours somewhat befuddled Martin

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MadEngineer ●

I don't know why the ship shakes.

As to why the ship had 100% energy, I think its a quality NPC ships can have. It seems that NPC ships can have unlimited energy and hydrogen, or at least the numbers don't change as its used or drained.

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Rabiator ●

I guess I'll have to experiment with that ;-)

If it extends to player-modified and extended NPC ships, I could see that little Bullfrog miner being transformed into a proud big cruiser that can travel the stars forever without refueling.

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MadEngineer ●

I tried adding modules to the bullfrog but it didn't work. I don't have permission to add stuff to it.

If you are determined to have unlimited free energy, you can steal the bullfrog. As for hydrogen, there is a damaged hydrogen freighter that you can steal (after partially disassembling it for a mission), or you could return to the first space station and fuel up from one of the many connectors.

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MadEngineer ●

I tried looking for it but, that hydrogen freighter is gone in my game. I can't test it now. Oh well.

Not a big problem for me. Solar panels and ion thrusters cover most of my needs. I just need an oxygen source to keep going. Unfortunately no ship or station I've encountered thus far carries an oxygen tank.

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Martin ●

I understand the energy cheat is a good approach to help beginners with the missions, one thing less to bother about.

I also consider the steadfast mini miner sort of a cheat. Not sure if this is something which isn't balanced out yet in VRAGE3 and the devs just cheated the engine's physics to be able to do these missions. ATM I see no way to build such small miners which won't cause fear of virtual whiplash injuries.

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MadEngineer ●

I recently realized that I was playing an old save, which affected what missions, ships, and stations that were available. In a new survival game, I found the sledge and many stations have oxygen tanks, so oxygen is free now. So some of my earlier comments are inaccurate with the current version of the game.

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Anthony ●

Hi there,

From what i've read, you're better off doing a blueprint copy of npc ships then building them. also of the subject of the bullfrog line to help it move better from my trial and error(also alot of cussing) is to remove some of the blocks from around the back of the ship and add a few more thusters, and any free spots add some gyros. :)

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