Hydrogen thruster sound keeps playing with dampeners turned off and on lock

Aleksey shared this bug 2 months ago
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Hello. Sound thing with hydrogen thrusters. How to reproduce:

Use any ship with hydrogen thrusters, turn off dampeners and make small movement. Thruster sound still playing even if you are not using thrusters at the moment.

Also this problem occured if your ship is locked with landing gear or connector.

It seems that any grid movement causes that, even smallest. I can make a video of that.

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This happens to me pretty much anytime I land or dock, even on voxel. The thrusters sound like they're firing nonstop which is super fatiguing to listen to nonstop. Happens with both landing gear and connectors.

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I have this one. Not sure if it's relevant, but I put the thrusters in a group and turned them off. I was still getting thruster sounds while next to the ship.

My Notes: it wasnt all the time but every 2-4 times I got in and out of the Hydrogen Ship "Sledge". It would drop frame rates and the engine would get laggy. I couldn't get it to dispel the sound until I went back into my ship, cycled the engines and jumped out again.


My hunch: (Fwiw) I'm betting there's a "On Exit" for the cockpit that is a on/off setup for the thruster sound that doesn't check to see if the engines are off first. On exit, Thrusters are Off, it cycles the sound to On. I found the most issues when I would manually turn off the thrusters (though that wasn't every time, it was the majority of the time).


side note: would be cool to have practically no sound for thrusters except for bass rumblings in space since there is functionally no sound in space unless there's air to move the sound...

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To your side note, sound actually travels through solid objects as well, so since you're in the same ship and there's (ideally) air in the cockpit, you would still hear anything going on inside of your ship or contacting your ship, such as your engines firing. Assuming they're actually firing of course lol.

I think sounds work even with no contact right now though, so yeah unrelated to this bug but hopefully they improve that at some point.

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The idle hydrogen thruster sound which sounds more like full accelleration really irks me. And since there's no hud bar way to toggle thrusters on and off I can't get them to shut up without turning off the ship (and survival block) with Y.

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Have absolutely the same case. Very annoying.

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Exactly! It's like sound is tied to velocity rather than acceleration, it's really buggy right now idk what's going on with it.

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When I dock to a station my ship sounds like it is at full throttle.

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I second (third?) this. It seems its maybe a large thruster thing, as if i go forwards in the pre-fabbed hydro ship with dampners off and hear the persistent noise, if i press left or right it goes away. It is extremely annoying though. Also heard while docked as op says.

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I am playing a few of the longer distance missions, so I am using the typical space flight technique of turning off dampeners, thrusting up to a specific speed - in this case max of 1080 since I am going around the planet Verdure - and then stopping the hydrogen thrusters to coast for a distance before turning on dampeners to use thrust to reduce speed. The amount and volume of the ship's thrusters seems to be linked to the speed of the ship and not whether or how long the thrusters have been on.

I'm using this maneuver to conserve hydrogen fuel and avoid the costly maneuver of flying through the atmosphere.

What I'm expecting is the thrusters to be firing and increasing to a max while I'm increasing speed, then turn off and reduce volume to idle while I'm coasting, then be firing and increasing to a max while I'm reducing speed after turning the dampeners back on.

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Further notes on this noise. I have flown to the excavation mission and just landed. I tend to turn my ship off to conserve fuel, since the hydrogen thrusters seem to always be consuming fuel even when idle. (I miss the configurable ships controls so I could just turn off the thrusters and not the whole ship at the press of a key.)


While flying to the outpost, once I was in the atmosphere I used dampeners to slow my speed to a stop. I didn't hear the thrusters firing while hovering. I was up about 8 km from the site, so rather than consume fuel by using the C key, I turned off dampeners and just simply dropped for about 2 km.

While dropping, the ship speed increased, but the ship/thruster noise did NOT increase while falling. When I turned back on dampeners, the thrusters fired and I heard the whine down volume of thrusters firing as the speed was reduced.

I repeated this a few more times to confirm this behavior.

This feels more correct to me for the most part, other than the thrusters missing the constant low hum of thrust while hovering.

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Same here, turning off damps does not seem to stop it either so it's not the superdampeners.

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I'm having the same issue. My ship is docked to a connector, and all thrusters are off, like I went into the control panel and turned them all of. Inertial dampeners are off as well. The thruster noise still persists though.

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Yeah the only thing that usually works for me is pressing Y to completely turn off all ship power. But even that doesn't always work. And that's really annoying because then everything else turns off as well...

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I have encountered exactly the same issue. I reported (Or here is the case) it here as well and attached a video demonstrating the error.

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Only thing that stops it that i have found while landed is pressing Y to shut the whole ship down. :(

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Yes, I face this issue all the time as well! The engines produce a noise that sounds exactly like full thrust mode is engaged, even though they’re completely inactive. It’s quite perplexing and rather annoying to deal with.

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Have the same, soooo annoying.

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By the same token, ships that have been powered down make a powering-down sound when you come back into range.

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It reminds me an audio option in SE1 where you can choose between Arcade and Realistic sounds.

For now, SE2 seems to be only in Arcade sounds mode so the thruster sounds is based on ship velocity instead of thrust rate.

I hope this option will be back on SE2. I really loved how sound propagation was rendered in SE1 Realistic sounds mode.

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Wait arcade sound mode in SE1 was this horrible? Why did they even have it then? That's crazy. This drives me mad, it's barely playable. They should really just change it to realistic sound mode only then, I can't imagine anyone ever wanting this... constant blasting of engines sound while coasting with engines off or just sitting on a landing pad or ground is nuts.

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No no, the sound was better. It's just how and when the sound is played.

You're not supposed to active thrusters all the way to your destination. Only to maximum speed then disactivate inertia dampeners to save fuel. Only use lateral thrusters to adjust your trajectory then reactivate dampeners to brake speed before arrival.

So the sound should be heard only when dampeners are active and when you adjust your trajectory.

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Hello Engineers,


The sound of thrusters while flying is tied to speed, as such, thrusters will produce sound with dampeners on and off - this is intended behavior.

Thrusters sounds playing while a Grid is locked either through Landing Gear or Connector is an issue that is already fixed on our internal environments and should be shipped as a part of VS2.2 release.


As such, I will close this thread. Happy Engineering!


Kind Regards,

Bartosz

Keen Software House

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Hello,


Thank you very much to the fix to part of this bug report - as you said the part that is not intended game behavior.


However, personally, the sound of thrusters being tied to speed is extremely annoying. So, I would like to propose this suggestion: https://support.keenswh.com/spaceengineers2/pc/topic/52286-add-realistic-thruster-sound-and-full-realistic-sound-modes-from-se1.

For anyone else who also doesn't like the idea of thrusters blasting our ears while coasting through space, I'd really appreciate it if you up-voted my suggestion!


I really hope that you will consider my suggestion, but either way, kind regards and happy engineering to you as well!

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Thanks. But i think that thrusters sound with dampeners off is quite weird in space. If youflying without using them, only with your inertia, so thrusters are not supposed to make any sounds.

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@Aleksey I 100% agree. Did you see my suggestion I linked in my above reply?

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Star_Kindler

Yes. And i voted for it.

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"The sound of thrusters while flying is tied to speed, as such, thrusters will produce sound with dampeners on and off - this is intended behavior."

Acceleration or deceleration OK, "speed" makes ZERO/0 sense.

Hope that was language quirk or bad explanation.

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