Building Material Options

James Martin shared this feedback 24 days ago
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One thing I think space engineers really needed to enhance the engineering aspect of building, is different materials to build with. They heard this feedback and added skins which are unfortunately only aesthetic.


A few important materials I think we should have added in addition to steel are:


• Plastic

• Aluminium

• Concrete

• Ceramics


These building materials all have strengths and weaknesses or engineering trade offs.


• Plastic or carbon fibre:

Extremely light weight but with next to no damage resistance. This would be useful for interior greebling essentially that adds very minimal mass.


• Aluminium:

Lightweight building Material for transport ships that don't need heavy armouring. When atmospherics are introduced (yes I said when because we won't shut up about it) this would be a necessary addition for winged vehicles.


• Concrete:

Extremely heavy material with low damage resistance but does not get damaged by thruster flames or has extremely high resistance to thruster flames. Landing pads essentially.


• Ceramics:

Lightweight low durability material that has no impact resistance, light bump would shatter it. However it would be resistant to burning for the leading edge of ships designed for re-entry when atmospherics are introduced.


I think these are barebones necessary additions and most other materials could be skins.

The major choice here is aluminium for a lightweight efficient highly manoeuvrable ship that would fall to pieces at the slightest hint of weapon damage and has limited impact resistance Vs steel for damage resistance at the cost of weight/manoeuvrability and efficiency. But the concrete is needed for landing pads that we don't burn through when weight simply doesn't matter on a static base and the ceramics would be a nice addition to the engineering challenge and realism of atmospheric re-entry.

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Another similar post here with some nuanced differences but same basic concept:

https://support.keenswh.com/spaceengineers2/pc/topic/46078-armour-quality-and-metals

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I like plastics. They could be useful for many items like chairs, tables, beds etc.

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Maybe graphene can take a place in the list too?

Also I would like a higher end block that creates black diamonds to make better drills/grinders with.

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Good recommendation. Those four materials could give a lot more variety and expansion without making the game bog down in gathering/processing all the prerequisite materials (ores). With water now in the game, that could be an additional material especially for concrete (or for survival tasks as well).

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Anything that adds more depth and options to the gameplay is a vote from me.


One could go even further and allow making of different alloys.

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There is no need to push it to the extreme. Three materials are quite sufficient: iron, steel and alloy steel. Steel and alloy steel can be made from different raw materials according to different recipes, but the resulting material will be the same. Even so, 99% of players will never understand the differences between chromium steel, manganese steel, vanadium steel and molybdenum steel... (Me too...) It is quite enough for them to know that there are some alloy steels and those are to be used for special products.

Calculation:

100 parts iron + 1 part alloying additive = 101 parts steel

100 parts iron + 10 parts alloying additive = 110 parts alloy steel

101 parts of steel + 9 parts of alloying additive = 110 parts of alloy steel

11 parts alloy steel + 90 parts iron = 111 parts steel

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And yes, I know that "steel" is also iron plus 0,5-3% carbon...

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Shaped charges are made from copper, copper alloys are fun for other things too.

What do you think Lead and Titanium will be used for?

Zeros legions video on the Pioneer Edition did not reveal if Aluminium was a thing.

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Inserts for shaped charges are made from all sorts of materials - classically iron and steel, aluminium and aluminium alloys, nickel, but also beryllium or even tantalum.

Gallium is used not only for electronics, but also for optical elements for infrared systems...

Titanium is an excellent construction material - not only Blackbirds were built from it, but also the Project 705 Lira nuclear submarines (NATO code: Alfa)

Lead... Radiation shielding, part of armor, cryogenic technology...

Similarly, "ceramics" - someone thinks of brick, red ceramics, at best porcelain...

Technical ceramics also include synthetic corundum (fused Al2O3), ceramics are used to make liners for laminated tank armor, ceramic cutting plates are used for machining steel...


Concrete... in space, in a vacuum little use because it needs water to solidify. But what to do with such molten stone? It's a whole technical field similar to metallurgy. Little use for spacecraft, but an excellent material for building ground bases and static objects. Hard, strong, fire resistant...

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When do we get into metamaterials and isotopes of Palladium?

May be you can pass high voltages through mineral mixes to solidify them.

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