Official proton support
I'm gonna be blunt, and I know it's a lot to ask, but can y'all please add official proton support? I understand it takes time and resources but as buyer of SE1 and a lot of it's dlcs I was saddened by how frustrating it was to get SE1 to run at all under linux, BUT NOW WE HAVE A NEW CHANCE FOR THE FUTURE!!! I'm not gonna harass y'all into making dedicated binaries for each type of base linux distro, but I just want to have piece of mind that I'll be able to enjoy the purchase(s) I made, if that's too much to ask for then I'll just have to take my business elsewhere as there wouldn't be a point in purchasing any upcoming dlcs or anything at all really. I really love space engineers but I and many others cannot stand windows, so I figure official proton support would be an excellent midway point for your community that prefers to waddle on, as well as not being a total drag on updating every time changes are made. May we have an epic space simulator!
I don't really like wording and statements, but I do support idea.
But I believe something like "guaranty" of not breaking/making harder(significantly) to set up proton (e.g. using some obscure Windows specific API call (as it was with SE1 GPU physics case (I believe))) would be more reasonable.
And TBH, it alredy exist, Keen alredy assists Linux comunity of SE and SE2 and I'm grateful for it. So only think that will change is that this "promise" to be writen down in paper.
I don't really like wording and statements, but I do support idea.
But I believe something like "guaranty" of not breaking/making harder(significantly) to set up proton (e.g. using some obscure Windows specific API call (as it was with SE1 GPU physics case (I believe))) would be more reasonable.
And TBH, it alredy exist, Keen alredy assists Linux comunity of SE and SE2 and I'm grateful for it. So only think that will change is that this "promise" to be writen down in paper.
Potentially there could be performance gains when using proton, as its system is not engaged in so many unnecessary background tasks.
Potentially there could be performance gains when using proton, as its system is not engaged in so many unnecessary background tasks.
We've seen how the Steam Deck has boosted Proton/Linux gaming and I can only imagine what happens when some version 2 comes out. With SE2 still having a very long development ahead of it, I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment of not invalidating/discarding platforms, keeping all the options open even if a new (disruptive) platform/console hits te market in the next couple of years.
We already see Intel is knocking on the door to get some piece of the action in the GPU market. By steering clear of locking yourself into a specific ecosystem with some obscure/proprietary calls to specific drivers, future expansion would open up all the possibilities (next Xbox release? PlayStation 6 and 7? some console from the other side of the planet that we haven't heard about yet? any newcomer VR headset?)
We've seen how the Steam Deck has boosted Proton/Linux gaming and I can only imagine what happens when some version 2 comes out. With SE2 still having a very long development ahead of it, I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment of not invalidating/discarding platforms, keeping all the options open even if a new (disruptive) platform/console hits te market in the next couple of years.
We already see Intel is knocking on the door to get some piece of the action in the GPU market. By steering clear of locking yourself into a specific ecosystem with some obscure/proprietary calls to specific drivers, future expansion would open up all the possibilities (next Xbox release? PlayStation 6 and 7? some console from the other side of the planet that we haven't heard about yet? any newcomer VR headset?)
Well, I just bought SE2, but because it didn't work on linux, I requested a refund. I've bought all the SE1 DLCs so am clearly inclined to spend money. I'll buy SE2 again, when it sounds like it can run on linux.
Well, I just bought SE2, but because it didn't work on linux, I requested a refund. I've bought all the SE1 DLCs so am clearly inclined to spend money. I'll buy SE2 again, when it sounds like it can run on linux.
To bring another argument for it on board:
More and more users are unhappy with Windows and how Microsoft treat Win11 users with their more and more broken updates and user paternalism. They show clearly how critical a monopoly is.
And while Win10 support ends this year, some don't want to switch to Win11, they try at least Linux out and some stay on Linux. I will try it later this year out as well and having SE1/SE2 running under Linux would be for me a not so unimportant thing.
So the need for games to run under Proton rises actually, slowly, but it does.
To bring another argument for it on board:
More and more users are unhappy with Windows and how Microsoft treat Win11 users with their more and more broken updates and user paternalism. They show clearly how critical a monopoly is.
And while Win10 support ends this year, some don't want to switch to Win11, they try at least Linux out and some stay on Linux. I will try it later this year out as well and having SE1/SE2 running under Linux would be for me a not so unimportant thing.
So the need for games to run under Proton rises actually, slowly, but it does.
I agree. Please support proton so we can play on our preferred OS and encourage us to support future DLCs!
I agree. Please support proton so we can play on our preferred OS and encourage us to support future DLCs!
Would like to see this as well. If not I wont play the game, no game has made me install Windows & this one is no different.
Would like to see this as well. If not I wont play the game, no game has made me install Windows & this one is no different.
tl;dr: A native port may (or may not 🤷) be a more realistic target than proton compatibility
The game and engine binaries are DotNet 8, most dependencies are DotNet 7/8, there are a few native binaries/dlls like nodejs, iirc DotNet can not/should not be run under Proton since DotNet 8 is natively available in many platforms including several flavours of Linux, Intel and ARM Macs and obviously Windows.
(Speculation part) The graphics seems to be rendered to an Avalonia (Avalonia UI) (GitHub - AvaloniaUI/Avalonia: Develop Desktop, Embedded, Mobile and WebAssembly apps with C# and XAML. The most popular .NET UI client technology) app which supports rendering in various flavours of Linux and (Intel? and) ARM Macs
So many of the technical challenges seem to be already resolved, but as we are mere observers we can't know if there are other challenges (like some dependencies to kernell.dll, DX, etc) to overcome in order to bring this game to other platforms.
With that said a native port may (or may not 🤷) be a more realistic target than proton compatibility
tl;dr: A native port may (or may not 🤷) be a more realistic target than proton compatibility
The game and engine binaries are DotNet 8, most dependencies are DotNet 7/8, there are a few native binaries/dlls like nodejs, iirc DotNet can not/should not be run under Proton since DotNet 8 is natively available in many platforms including several flavours of Linux, Intel and ARM Macs and obviously Windows.
(Speculation part) The graphics seems to be rendered to an Avalonia (Avalonia UI) (GitHub - AvaloniaUI/Avalonia: Develop Desktop, Embedded, Mobile and WebAssembly apps with C# and XAML. The most popular .NET UI client technology) app which supports rendering in various flavours of Linux and (Intel? and) ARM Macs
So many of the technical challenges seem to be already resolved, but as we are mere observers we can't know if there are other challenges (like some dependencies to kernell.dll, DX, etc) to overcome in order to bring this game to other platforms.
With that said a native port may (or may not 🤷) be a more realistic target than proton compatibility
I've bought all the DLCs for SE1, and got over 1500 hours played. The last 4 years exclusively on Proton/Linux.
Keens unofficial support, as well as the community support, to get SE1 running on Proton has been wonderful.
Getting SE1 running on Proton took years. SE2 is early alpha and there are already reports of some Proton-systems successfully running SE2, so the future looks bright.
Having said that, Official Proton support would be very welcome.
Consider also the growing market of handhelds: Asus ROG Ally and Lenovo Legion Go are now getting SteamOS(Linux)
I've bought all the DLCs for SE1, and got over 1500 hours played. The last 4 years exclusively on Proton/Linux.
Keens unofficial support, as well as the community support, to get SE1 running on Proton has been wonderful.
Getting SE1 running on Proton took years. SE2 is early alpha and there are already reports of some Proton-systems successfully running SE2, so the future looks bright.
Having said that, Official Proton support would be very welcome.
Consider also the growing market of handhelds: Asus ROG Ally and Lenovo Legion Go are now getting SteamOS(Linux)
Created an account just to vote for this. Linux support native or through proton would be fantastic.
Created an account just to vote for this. Linux support native or through proton would be fantastic.
People use Linux for gaming? This seems like a very niche request for 0.0001% of the gaming population.
People use Linux for gaming? This seems like a very niche request for 0.0001% of the gaming population.
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