Ice is either too abundant or too rare early

Michel Turpin shared this feedback 3 years ago
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If you spawn on a lake or on north/south pole, you'll never be short.

If otherwise you spawn in a desert on earth like planet, you have to travel a lot before you get to find ice. But unlucky you, travelling is hard without fuel.


1. Ice deposits under the surface like other ores could be added to allow early start.

2. Create petrol/coal deposit then rename the hydrogen generator to engine.


While the 1st is easier, the 2nd would make more sense because why the hell can we break the 2nd law of thermodynamics using water ?

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Or have the survival kit generate small amounts of ice (as in moisture/water in mud) from stone for when the starting ice amount is depleted. Just enough though. It should be scarce in deserts and alike. Players should carefully consider their time and resource gathering investment for flying. Especially when you've been dealt the harder 'desert landing' card.

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A "moisture vaporator" of some kind would be useful for such a scenario, certainly... we don't want to go down the "cracking oil" road though... you'd need too many different machines for it to be worthwhile and still believable.

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I find burning raw oil or coal more believable than heating ice, going through an electrolyser then burning hydrogen with ... well nothing else or maybe it's not hydrogen we are using but hydrazine then it makes sense.

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"1. Ice deposits under the surface like other ores could be added to allow early start."

I though ice was only on lake or mountain top but I found ice in ground both on mars and earth in the test fairly close to my starting point.

On the other hand, in space start, I was unlucky and took me over an hour and around 20 asteroid scouted to find a single ice deposit which I was needing for my suit.

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"...why the hell can we break the 2nd law of thermodynamics using water ?" The same reason we break it when salvaging batteries I would assume: FUCK LOGIC

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No, for the battery it's the first law of thermodynamics that is not respected. And I'm fine with that since we don't have anything to handle waste.

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KSH made deliberate choices not to apply all the rules of dynamic motion of objects in their world. So I don't see why the laws of thermodynamics should be respected more.

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The coal/petrol name was a suggestion to explain why you would have them in desert biomes.


We may explain ice veins with groundwater too.

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