You Really Broke The Game Keen, Thanks
So since the major update after the decorative blocks DLC i have come to totally HATE Keen, i have so many problems with this game and have spent too long on their website and in steam discussions trying to fix this game, as i spend more than 3 quarters of my gaming time trying to get into the game.
So Keen could you please fix the game before even starting to work on SE 2 or give it to us for free cause this once beautiful game has turned into a half ***** piece of ****, i as an indie game dev don't enjoy having to fix a game (even rewriting files) that's not mine and that i put down money for especially considering its out of early access. recently its gotten unbareable and i'm giving up trying to solve this, if anyone would like to help or has suggestions that seem plausable i will try it, otherwise i won't waste my time as the game crashes sometimes crashes my steam and/or my graphics drivers along with it, sometimes my whole pc too. i don't want to try just anything as my graphics card recently died due to SE crashing everything too much and i don't have money for a 3rd one if this one dies too. I have already asked for support on the portal but in my experience they have never answered me or just been outright useless.
What Happens
now that that is out of the way, what happens/ what am i experiencing? well to be honest it will be totally random sometimes i can't even get into the main menu, sometimes i get into the main menu and instant crash, sometimes i get in the main menu and get a extreme memory leak that crashes me, sometimes the main menu is stable and i try loading in then i crash, sometimes i load in and got about 2min then i crash (this one is rare though), sometimes i load in and my game crashes and my screen res goes down to 640 with 95hz refresh rate and usually then crashes my whole pc. sometimes steam will say running but the game won't use more than 10mb ram and i won't even see the splash screen.
What I've Tried To Try And Fix The Problems
- deleting my .cfg file
- deleting my shadercache folders
- validating my game
- set my ram cache/ vram back to defaults (mostly fixed the game not going past 10mb ram)
- uninstalled and reinstalled
- updated all drivers
- disabled steam overlay
- got an app to help manage the GC removal to combat memory leaks (does have a slight effect)
- deleting my config file
- made sure dotnet is up to date
- tried various version of gpu drivers
- rewrote game files (would help sometimes)
- deleting %appdata% game folder
- Closing Firefox before gaming as that caused crashes i believe
there are more that i can't remember but i'll update this list as i go and remember
System Info
Computer Information:
Manufacturer: MSI
Model: MS-7846
Form Factor: Desktop
No Touch Input Detected
Processor Information:
CPU Vendor: GenuineIntel
CPU Brand: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4160 CPU @ 3.60GHz
CPU Family: 0x6
CPU Model: 0x3c
CPU Stepping: 0x3
CPU Type: 0x0
Speed: 3600 Mhz
4 logical processors
2 physical processors
HyperThreading: Supported
FCMOV: Supported
SSE2: Supported
SSE3: Supported
SSSE3: Supported
SSE4a: Unsupported
SSE41: Supported
SSE42: Supported
AES: Supported
AVX: Supported
CMPXCHG16B: Supported
LAHF/SAHF: Supported
PrefetchW: Unsupported
Operating System Version:
Windows 10 (64 bit)
NTFS: Supported
Crypto Provider Codes: Supported 311 0x0 0x0 0x0
Video Card:
Driver: AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series
DirectX Driver Name: aticfx32.dll
Driver Version: 26.20.11015.5009
DirectX Driver Version: 26.20.11015.5009
Driver Date: 5 22 2019
OpenGL Version: 4.6
Desktop Color Depth: 32 bits per pixel
Monitor Refresh Rate: 59 Hz
DirectX Card: AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series
VendorID: 0x1002
DeviceID: 0x683d
Revision Not Detected
Number of Monitors: 1
Number of Logical Video Cards: 1
No SLI or Crossfire Detected
Primary Display Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Desktop Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Primary Display Size: 45.35" x 25.51" (52.01" diag)
115.2cm x 64.8cm (132.1cm diag)
Primary Bus Type Not Detected
Primary VRAM: 1024 MB
Supported MSAA Modes: 2x 4x 8x
Sound card:
Audio device: Speakers (Realtek High Definiti
Memory:
RAM: 12227 Mb
Miscellaneous:
UI Language: English
Media Type: Undetermined
Total Hard Disk Space Available: 1584602 Mb
Largest Free Hard Disk Block: 416320 Mb
OS Install Date: Jan 01 1970
Game Controller: None detected
VR Headset: None detected
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Your log file suggests the game is running out of memory. You do seem to have an unusual ram configuration.
2 sticks of 6GB seems unusual so perhaps you have mismatched sticks of memory. That can cause issues.
The game is also fairly CPU intensive and you seems to have a pretty old CPU. I don't run into the issues you are describing.
Your log file suggests the game is running out of memory. You do seem to have an unusual ram configuration.
2 sticks of 6GB seems unusual so perhaps you have mismatched sticks of memory. That can cause issues.
The game is also fairly CPU intensive and you seems to have a pretty old CPU. I don't run into the issues you are describing.
update likely changed/reset some gfx settings. this is/was a common thing with big updates in lots of games. recheck those in the menu and turn them down
update likely changed/reset some gfx settings. this is/was a common thing with big updates in lots of games. recheck those in the menu and turn them down
"my graphics card recently died due to SE crashing everything too much" - At the interface between the hardware and the application sits the driver. If anything you should be angry at the graphics card manufacturer for releasing a driver that allows the card to run into a dangerous state (temperature/currents). In any case I would run some tests on that system, like MemTest86.
"i as an indie game dev don't enjoy having to fix a game (even rewriting files)" - Rewriting the game data files is not fixing the game. Reverse engineering the code and patching it would be a fix.
"if anyone would like to help or has suggestions that seem plausable i will try it," - Run some hardware tests. For starters I would propose the bootable version of MemTest86.
"the game crashes sometimes crashes my steam and/or my graphics drivers along with it, sometimes my whole pc too" - While the executables communicate with each other, all programs running on a PC are separated by the operating system, and cannot directly access hardware without the help of a driver. That's why I would suspect corruption of RAM or sometimes simply running out of RAM, which many programs and drivers may not be prepared for. That said, whenever SE ran out of RAM, I experienced voxel terrain not updating or the game crashing, but the graphics driver (AMD) and operating system kept working even if it takes half an hour reading/writing to swap file on HDD.
"i don't want to try just anything as my graphics card recently died due to SE crashing everything too much and i don't have money for a 3rd one if this one dies too." - Don't worry, as explained above, the hardware should be well shielded by the driver. If it is not, blame the manufacturer for allowing it to run in the red zone until it dies. It is really unlikely that a program that's not specifically made to kill graphics cards by using a known weakness and is used by thousands of players world wide is the death cause of your graphics card. It is far more likely that a soldering point or component on the board aged faster than expected. Gamers Nexus talks a bit about service life of graphics cards at minute 7 in this video: https://youtu.be/hcxWDMbNXYA?t=420
"my graphics card recently died due to SE crashing everything too much" - At the interface between the hardware and the application sits the driver. If anything you should be angry at the graphics card manufacturer for releasing a driver that allows the card to run into a dangerous state (temperature/currents). In any case I would run some tests on that system, like MemTest86.
"i as an indie game dev don't enjoy having to fix a game (even rewriting files)" - Rewriting the game data files is not fixing the game. Reverse engineering the code and patching it would be a fix.
"if anyone would like to help or has suggestions that seem plausable i will try it," - Run some hardware tests. For starters I would propose the bootable version of MemTest86.
"the game crashes sometimes crashes my steam and/or my graphics drivers along with it, sometimes my whole pc too" - While the executables communicate with each other, all programs running on a PC are separated by the operating system, and cannot directly access hardware without the help of a driver. That's why I would suspect corruption of RAM or sometimes simply running out of RAM, which many programs and drivers may not be prepared for. That said, whenever SE ran out of RAM, I experienced voxel terrain not updating or the game crashing, but the graphics driver (AMD) and operating system kept working even if it takes half an hour reading/writing to swap file on HDD.
"i don't want to try just anything as my graphics card recently died due to SE crashing everything too much and i don't have money for a 3rd one if this one dies too." - Don't worry, as explained above, the hardware should be well shielded by the driver. If it is not, blame the manufacturer for allowing it to run in the red zone until it dies. It is really unlikely that a program that's not specifically made to kill graphics cards by using a known weakness and is used by thousands of players world wide is the death cause of your graphics card. It is far more likely that a soldering point or component on the board aged faster than expected. Gamers Nexus talks a bit about service life of graphics cards at minute 7 in this video: https://youtu.be/hcxWDMbNXYA?t=420
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